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The US The Conquerer of Iraq; It Deserves T Be Treated As
Such
By David Lang
Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:07 AM
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DISCUSS: 24 4 !
m-612920, with 25. you really never get it, do you? It's the way of the United
States of America to go invading other countries for one reason or
another.
Whether to avenge for the bombing of the World Trade Center, or help the
French to extricate itself from the hopeless fight in Vietnam, or to remove a
leader of a foreign country the sitting US president doesn't like; so it's not
that former President George Bush was trigger-happy or blood-thirsty to
attempt such an adventure, which was what many of you all Obama supporters
like to condem him for.
It's in the interest of the US and its people to deploy American forces
wherever they are needed. All US president did it and will do it. Even
president Obama, your beloved president, just did it! And he did it with the
least reason or rational (to boot). Now that's what you should call a
foolhardy, reckless, unjustified, unscrupulous, needless, unethical,
naive,bubbling,dangerous,misleading......adventure.
That's what it was ..the so-called No-Fly zone joke.
The whole world - or at least it seemed - bought into Obama's pitching (snake
oil) wholesale. They believed what Obama told them (speculated) that up to
70,000 people would be slaughtered unless Col. Qaddafi was stopped), hook,
line and sinker!
No one, no one, was wise enough to rationalize that there was no way the
Libyan strongman could have killed so may people short of using weapons of
mass destruction. Or the need or desire to do so. Yet, no one came forward to
call him what he was: a liar! No! a murderer!
Wait a minute, there was one: Pat Buchanan of MSNBC's talk show "Morning Joe
fame. But before I get Pat Buchanan into trouble, I want to add that Pat
Buchanan did not say Obama was a liar.All he said was: "..hard to believe what
Obama said (speculated), for even after months of fighting, there was not even
a single report of Qadaffi or his loyalist troops going on killing spree, and
(what's more) all the reporters covering the war were anti-Qaddafi!"
Never before in the history of the US intervention in other countries, when
the siting president was so emotional that he allowed his 'enemy' (Col.
Qaddafi) to be killed in cold blood. He cannot escape blame by saying he
didn't kill Qaddafi himself. He didn't need to. As US president everything or
everyone is on his call. Where would these murderous NTC rebels/fighters be
today without NATO's help, and guess who controls NATO? US general, of course.
Who controls British prime minister David Cameron and his cruise missle firing
military: President Obama!
Would those guilty of hasty killing of Qaddafi face justice? Not likely. You
know why? Beause they are in the good book of President Obama. They are
Obama's 'Red Guards', if you will.
Even the international Court of Justice preferred to not get involved (so much
for its noble objectives of ensuring justice for all).
Since President Obama came on the scene, everything in the world, the world
court, the UN, to name a few, have become fake. (it's the most devilish thing
ever happened to our world, after Hitler).
He must be the most selfish man ever lived, after Hitler; he wanted to be seen
as keeping his campaign promise to withdraw troops from Iraq - which he used
to exploit the weariness of Americans towards the Iraq war - to his advantage
during the US presidential general election - so he withdrew troops from Iraq,
regardless...He knew exactly what would happen once US military was withdrawn;
but for a man who would do anything to get elected - or shall we say get
reelected - as president of the world's only super power, expect nothing
unless it helps him get another four years as the king of the universe!
If he could get away with murder, what do you expect? He could even betray his
own country's (American) interests, for crying out loud. He knew he failed in
Iraq, even though not started by him, so he took the easy way out: he withdrew.
Oh, he did make some half-hearted attempts to ask Iraqi leaders for permission
to leave behind a residual force of fifty thousands (which his generals said
was needed to see to things that could be unpredictable). Who said the US, the
conqueror of Iraq should be submissive to its leaders? It should dictate
terms, not being dictated to. He could put his foot down and say: enough
wrangling already; now it's time for a brand new prime minister (like when on
Bush's watch when a few prime ministers were replaced by the American
government). It seemed clear that Obama had been treating Iraq as Bush's
problem - not American problem - so he didn't do anything to make the
occupation of Iraq a success. He didn't force the present prime minister out
when he lost the election (like Laurent Gbagbo of the Ivory Coast, remember?)
and refused to make way for his Sunni opponent, the winner. Later after some
maneuverings it turned out al-Mlikki , the current premier, had the numbers to
continue helming the Iraqi government. Nobody could tell what happened, but
it's clear al-Milikki, like all incumbents every where, didn't want to give up
what he loved, being prime minister. It was Obama's job - if his intention was
to serve the interests of the United States of America, and not his own, to
see to it that Iraq remains stable, reasonably stable; and that the US, being
its conquerer, shall be accorded the respect it deserved , like becoming the
most favored friend of Iraq forever.
During almost entire term in the presidency, nothing much happened in Iraq,
except violence, of course. No new prime minister, let alone prime miniters,
were appointed. This unfortunately makes or allows the present prime minster
to become entrenched. When a leader stays in his office for long, too long,
he, like leaders every where, can and will consolidate his position by
replacing everyone with his own people, angering those being replaced which
inevitably leads to instability.
This, I am sure, Obama was aware of. Unless the hundreds of people whom he
called advisors he surrounded himself with at the expense of American tax
payers, are all morons, he knew Iraq was going to the dogs. He should have
done something; he should leave his predecessor alone, or ask his liberal
supporters like those on Newsvine.com panels, who keep on
bashing former President Bush as if it has become an obsession, to stop. It
saps their brain cells which turn them into the likes of robots. I say this
because if someone keeps hounding another for one mistake - which, what's
more, actually was not a mistake - relentlessly, then there are lots of people
we can hound on. Take the US president, for instance. He's far from being an
angel. Actually he's the devil, ten times worst than Bush. He attacked a
country's leader solely because that leader looked likely to buck the trend
(throw a spanner into his Arab Spring works.
He said he wanted to cleanse the Middle East, but he meant not those parts
that contained Saudi Arabia, Kuweit, Qatar,
or Bahrain.
Kings of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are no better than the hounded Syrian
president, yet they 're left alone.
When former Thai prime minister @!$%# Vejejaya, or something, fired on women
and children beside men and old men in Bangkok not long ago when more than 90
people were shot dead, where was President Obama? His silence was deafening.
Abhijit was worse that Gadaffi, he was also left alone.
I could go on and on.
Because of the failure of Obama as president, Iraq, which had turned around
after the surge, had now started to descend into a free-for-all mayhems.
If only he did his duty, properly instead of venturing into Libya and wasted
billion of US dollars tax payers' money..for what? If only he was fair and
firm when dealing with Iraqi leaders, like former President George Bush. Make
them work things out among themselves, or replace the prime minister. He could
appoint another Shiite prime minister if necessary. Instead, he did nothing
other than sending his vice-president to shake a few hands.
He views himself as tough president because of his signature succes - the
killing of Osama Bin Ladin and the
murdering of Col.Qaddafi - but actually he's a weakling president. Although he
may have regained his courage somewhat after shouting across the bow in South
China Sea and Australia against China, basically he's a weakling person. Seen,
viewed as weakling. A strong or commanding personality doesn't necessarily
need to be aggressive to deter or awe his opponents. People like former
President Bush. When dealing with Chinese leaders, one of Obama's failures,
Bush was firm and fair. (When he sent the American aircraft carrier to the
China Seas for naval exercise with South Korea, the Chinese kept quiet (what's
the big deal; only an exercise the Chinese thought), but when came Obama's
turn to do so, Beijing was outraged, and demanded Obama move his carrier to
conduct the exercise elsewhere. Why? And Obama obeyed). I don't know if Bush
would relent in the face of Chinese similar demand; but I am sure of one
thing, with Bush, it would never have come to that, issuing ultimatums. It
largely boils down to if you're highly respected; respected by the way you do
things: firmly but fairly.
To know how President Obama scores in this department look no further than our
long-term ally Pakistant.
When some Pakistan soldiers are killed by mistakes, all hell breaks loose,
every time. No amount of apology is accepted or sufficient for its leaders.
They usually close the border-crossing faster than the fall of the hat. Even
after Obama dispatched his special representatives to offer sincere and
personal apologies, Islamabad did not move. To rub salt into Obama's wound
they gradually opened the crossing at their own pace. Such was the gratitude
the multi-billion dollar recipient of American aid for the US government or
shall we say, the respect the Pakistani leaders accorded to the US
president.
Do you wish to know more?C
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Comrade Vlad's dogDec 26, 2011
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Do you wish to know more?
No, please don't make us KNOW any more, it was hard enough trying to get
through this piece twice.
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Buono CaneDec 26, 2011
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thank-you Vlad, I could not, nearly, say it as nicely
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lloyd-3730046Dec 26, 2011
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Some of the stuff is accurate, more of it is partisan propaganda.
Drawn from the pages of marginal scholarship and slanted viewpoints....
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AlanA0720Dec 26, 2011
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I'm fierce protector of the oppressed; whether animals human beings. Those
being victimized can count on me, rain or shine.
I found it rather odd that a "writer" who claims the above in his tagline,
would write something which portrays himself to be quite the opposite. The
"fierce protector of the oppressed" has just openly stated that Obama was
wrong for protecting the oppressed.
I must admit, I have not had to trudge through this much @!$%# at 5 am since I
was 10.
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Shelby DavenportDec 27, 2011
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LOL
Nice!
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Ripley8Dec 26, 2011
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wow ! one needs hipwaders to read this slop !
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Buono CaneDec 26, 2011
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hipwaders? shit, scuba gear is necessary...maybe even one of those ultra-deep
diving suits...good lord deliver us from this evil
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Fed up with RepublicansDec 26, 2011
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This is real tripe.
Even for a Republican.
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Buono CaneDec 26, 2011
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I wanted to take some time off posting on the vine and just read again.
I can't believe I've ever read as much naivete', propaganda, and
misinformation in any one piece.
Nothing served but those that wish to exploit America's resources, wealth, and
people.
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hsquared-1401940Dec 26, 2011
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m-612920, with 25. you really never get it, do you?
It would appear this is spill over from an MSNBC article between m-612920 and
the author.
As a newsvine member is cited by name and is marked "all of newsvine", I
believe it is a breech of the CoH and thereby reported.
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hsquared-1401940Dec 27, 2011
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The multiple accounts has been reported as violation of User Agreement.
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Randy McMurphyDec 26, 2011
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Poor Poor "Murdered" Colonel...why he was just mining his own beeswax, not
doin anything...right? WRONG, as He had mobilized Armor and air forces and
attacked attacked and subdued Zawiya, Zuara, Ra's Lanuf, Brega, Ajdabiya, and
the working class districts of Tripoli itself, using live ammunition fired
into defenseless rallies.Around 8,000 dead according to the transitional
authority. Where were such massacres occurring to trigger the "humanitarian"
invasion and occupation of Iraq? Answer NONE of record ....perhaps because
Saddam controlled only 1/3 of Iraq operationally as the no fly zones prevented
actions against the southern shia and the northern kurds ...Oh an WMD? Yeah we
were 2 months away from the complete unfettered access of weapons inspectors
when Bush told them to leave because we were going to start bombing.
The Libyan uprising caused massive defections of Quddafis military ,prompted
by the brutality
of the regimes response to protestors...No other nations in the region , Not
Syria Iran , favored regime change of tyrants as Libya had...this is an
important point, as we did not aid Libyan rebels to dictate their future, or
use them as a base of operations for a regional control agenda as the Neo Cons
saw the Iraq debacle to be. The Transitional Authority of Libya rejected
outright any notion of western nato or american military bases on their soil.
Iraq cost us 4,450 Dead American servicemen and women, 30,000 wounded, half of
them catastrophically .The initial cost was a trillion, but all told , we will
have spent 3 trillion when accounting for lifetime care for the wounded. The
Libyan incursion cost us initially 2 billion $ no Americans dead, very few
civilian casualties
No Iraqis were clamoring for foreign military aid, the marsh shia or Kurd did
not cry for us to invade their country
on their behalf, But the Libyan protesters and later rebels, and defector
ambassadors and generals and confederate military units begged the world to
help.
Quddafi pledged to "Cleanse" Benghazi , a city full of anti quadaffi libyans.
the population is 700,000, not 70,000, an if you think it would be hard to
kill that many people, the hutu killed 1 million people in 100 days, with only
machetes and the crudest of primitive weaponry, not aror rifles an artillery
that Qudaffi had.
Bush ...projected strength? When he paid China to return our aircraft that
they caused to crash? How about when Bush had to pay homage to hu jintao at
the red olympics, while our allies Georgia was getting crushed by Russia,
after Bush administration assured them that ""we had their backs"? No he was
the joke of the world and the country by that point.
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GoldenGateMami_SusiDec 26, 2011
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"...I'm fierce protector of the oppressed; whether animals human beings. Those
being victimized can count on me, rain or shine...."
My how quixotic! Seems the armor is crusted over with the lichen of a "proper
propagandist."
Good Lawd. I have trudged through some pretty thick @!$%# in my time here on
the Vine but this ones a topper.
I believe it qualifies for Ph.D.
Piled Higher and Deeper.
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magnoliaaveDec 27, 2011
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Good reading and I would like to have your opinion on more!
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Randy McMurphyDec 27, 2011
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What does it for you, is it the Revisionism or the lack of facts?
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Buono CaneDec 27, 2011
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my guess randy is magnoliaave comment is dripping with sarcasm
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AlanA0720Dec 27, 2011
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my guess randy is magnoliaave comment is dripping with sarcasm
If only.... Magnolia is actually being quite serious. Shared intellect and
"values".
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Shelby DavenportDec 27, 2011
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The whole world - or at least it seemed - bought into Obama's pitching (snake
oil) wholesale.
Delete Obama, insert Bush.
Wow. Just wow! I can't even respond to this it's such an overwhelming pile of
sewer sludge!
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BadfishDec 27, 2011
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One president, Two president, red president, blue president. Try it try it and
you will see, you might like war just like me.
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Buono CaneDec 27, 2011
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anyone notice how the esteemable seeder has been absent from the discussion,
it must be a troll seed
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Shelby DavenportDec 27, 2011
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Then, I'm glad I haven't invested much in it. He's probably exhausted after
the diatribe he posted.
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AlanA0720Dec 27, 2011
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Shoveling @!$%# does take a lot out of ya!
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hsquared-1401940Dec 28, 2011
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Author banned for multiple accounts.
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SyriaInTurmoilApr 12, 2013
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You all sound like President Obama's supporters. So am I now. Welcome on
board!
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David Lang
David Lang does not belong to any Nations, yet.
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I'm fierce protector of the oppressed; whether animals human beings. Those
being victimized can count on me, rain or shine.
Articles: 5 Seeds: 0 Comments: 19 Since: Jan 2011
We should build a temple for former President Bush
By David Lang
Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:02 AM
politicsobamageorge-w-bushadeptnesscoalition-of-the-willing-liesjoint-letter
DISCUSS: 26 8 !
The other day I stumbled on an article on the MSNBC blog about the demise of
Muammar Qaddafi (the bogeyman of European leaders and President Obama).
What's so intresting about the article, other than the death which everyone
had been forcusing for months, was the writer's praise for President Obama for
another job welldone. Another feather on Obama cap, he said, after his success
in making the AlQaeda chief Osama Bin Ladin history.
He seemed to be an Obama supporter and couldn't care less whether Obama
deserved those accolades or not.
Ah yes, Obama actually claimed credit for the elimination of the number one
enemy of the United State of America.
Immediately after the news broke that Osama was dead, the good people at the
Navy Seals were instructed to say the right things. That Osama was killed as a
result of an operation planned painstakingly by Prsident Obama himself, down
to even the last details, according to Navy Seals, of ordering the teams to
bring along a spare radar-proof helicopter, just in case something goes wrong
and it was a wise decision.
Wait a minute. Am I missing something here? I thought the Navy Seals are
supposed to be some slick guys in such operation? Do they need a president who
should be better off getting out of the way of the men trained to do the job,
to tell them how to do their job? And what about the efforts of men and women
who painstakingly pursued Osama for years pieacing together bits and bits of
information and intelligence they could lay theitr hands on. It was an ongoing
work; it was started from as far back as during President Bush junior's term
or possibly even during President Clinton's administration.
But to these two great leaders they didn't have it in them to crave so much
accolades to the point of ordering or hinting at the Seals to do the right
things.
But to be fair, Obama may not have ordered the Navy Seals to say those words
per se, but he showed or made clear he wasn't averse to such praises, it makes
no difference.
He wasn't averse to receiving the Nobel Peace Prize, was he?
President Obama sounds like many friends I used hang out with in those
days.
During our free time, since we're single, we would go around courting girls.
Our hunting grounds included shopping complexes or departmental stores.
Once we spotted a pretty girl (usually a promoter) I would be asked to
approach the girl while my friends observed from a distance. Once I got to
know the promoter and asked for her name and was about to extend my hand to
shake the girl's, my friends also thrust out their hands almost
simultaneously.
That's right, they got to know the pretty girl through no efforts of
theirs.
Just like president Obama, if you will.
When President Obama decided to withraw all US forces from Iraq by year end,
he was not worried that Iraq could slide back to where it was at the
beginning. Although this withdrawal was negotiated and planned during President
Bush's time, and Iraq probably had no objection to a force of fifty thousands
to be stationed there indefinitely then, President Obama saw it as another
feather on his hat. He knew the Iraqis cannot and should not be allowed to
dictate terms, he didn't pursue the matter as it was going to be good for his
reelection campaign come 2012.
He now foocuses on his reelection to another four years in the
Whitehouse.
I digress.
I want address the issue of former President George W. Bush going after Sadam
Hussein's hide for having WMD but turned out he didn't. Now look, I don't
think the former prsident meant Sadam had nuclear bomb per se; he meant the
man wanted to build them. That's the fact. If not why would the Israeli
government wanted to launch airstrike, risking condemnation from the
international community?
In fact, there was a nuclear plant called Osirak Sadam ambitously built with
French and Italian helpuntil the reactor was reduced to ruins by the Israeli
airforce in 1981.
Iraq also assembled 12 divisions of armed men, 2,200 tanks and 450 aircraft at
its disposal. Coupled with his belligerent behavior Saddam could really be a
threat to anyone who crosses him. For the Israeli government, the idea of any
Arab state holding nuclear over Israel was intolerable. Although the expert
estimates of Iraq capable of making nuclear weapons ranged from two years to
ten years, Begin then decided it was too risky to wait; what if the
calculation was wrong?
So the IAF was ordered to preemptively destroy the reactor. It was believed
the attack may have set back Iraq many years, though Saddam might have hidden
some diagrams or formulas (backup research breakthroughs some where which he
could fall back on to rebuild his project with little difficulty since he had
the means.
Sadam also boasted a large stockpile of all kind of chemical weapons
(according to him) second only the United States and the Soviet Union.
Seeing how he used them so successfully against Iraq Kurds and Iran, President
George W. Bush decided to take him out. Which he did.
But that's where or when the trouble started for Bush. While he got rid of
Sadam he also inevitably got many American soldiers killed in the invasion and
the occupation later. This made many people furious, none the least Cindy
Sheehan, who couldn't get over the loss of her son (probably the only
son).
Her protest against President Bush was persistent, filled with hatred and
vengeance. She was relentless until Bush finished his term, second term.
But when Prsident Obama started his own war in Libya with even less reason,
Cindy Sheehan considers it's not her fight, perhaps. Of course none of her
loved ones were involved, in harm's way as they say.
Cindy Sheehan, if you happen to read this, I want you to go out and protest
against Obama's action in Libya. Did you know how many thousands innocent
Libyans Obama martyred during the round-the-clock bombing by NATO planes?
You're smart, intelligent woman, I know. You can see through Obma's lies. If
not, how about google for the joint letters which Obama, Prime Minister David
Cameron of Britain and French President Nichalos Sarkozy displayed to the
world at their press conference. Note: when a reporter asked why the coalition
of the willing kept on bombing Qaddafi's troops and armor when the purpose of
the no-fly zone as to protect civilians from Qaddafi's planes only, the three
leaders resoundingly answered: "Well, we lied!"
Compared to these three unscrupulous leaders former President Bush was a
breath of fresh air. We should a temple for him instead of demonizing
him.
If not for Bush, Saddam could alive today and then the scenarios for the Middle
East would be far from today.
With Sadam's big army, 2,200 tanks and almost 500 aircraft airforce, not to
mention his belligerence, the present mayhem can be compared to stampede at a
football match./div>
We should show our gratitude to Bush for doing what he did and stop demonizing
him one and for all. He was a great president by any standard; but he was
misunderstood. It's never too late for us all to repent and change.
If we don't want to build a temple for him, fine..just stop attacking
him.
Here's my poem:
George W. Bush was a hero hold,
Of noble enterprise;
For although no WMD was found,
No smoking gun,
Osirak was there,
Not an imagination.
Do you wish to know more?
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obie-oneOct 23, 2011
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I'd have to disagree with what I have read.
George W. Bush was a terrorists fool, used by Ossama like a political tool.
He went into war not ever knowing why and the soldiers would bleed and many
would die.
For what do we ask, never to understand, for the sake of lost cause of a
paranoid man.
So we splintered and fought on the political field, from his lack of insight
and power he'd wield.
And now we return, weaker and poor to our home much darker and much more
insecure.
No , President Bush was not an American hero nor a man to embrace.
Just the wrong guy for the job who made too many mistakes.
President Bush did the American people wrong. Though I do not believe it to
have been intentional it should serve notice to what the Republican Party is
offering up for choices. Re-writing history does not change the
outcome...........
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Fed up with RepublicansOct 23, 2011
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Bush and his War on Terror was a failure.
It did not achieve the desired objective.
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GgapOct 23, 2011
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It did not achieve the desired objective.
...Unless his desired objective from the beginning was to see how many
American troops, Iraqi civilians he could kill and maim for Iraq's oil
reserves, before the American people will inform him that the jig is up. I'd
say it took about six months, give or take a few.
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JimEdeeOct 23, 2011
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What I found so strange for Bush "The War President", he was so quick with his
"Bring it on" but even quicker to duck and hide out in Alabama and Texas when
he thought he MIGHT have to go to war. Tells me one thing, he'd fight to the
last drop of someone else blood.
Why should Bush have worried about OBL? From Bush's own lips, "I don't think
to much about him." But he sure thought about the money to be made in
Iraq...how much was Black Water making, and Halliburton? Yeah, he sure was a
great "war president", he waged the best war ever seen against this
country.
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hugh bOct 23, 2011
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One of the biggest disappointments for the Military was the rapid defeat of
Iraq in 1991.
Dumbya learned much from his father's mistakes and made the most of those
lessons.
Undermanned, improperly equipped, incompetently planned, the second war in
Iraq is a good ol' military cluster@!$%# of the Vietnam type. Long lasting,
with crushing debt, little or no results, and huge profits for the Military
Industrial Complex Thieves.
Dumbya, Dummy Rummy, and Cheney Chummy, should be staked to a fireant mount
and coated with the blood of the innocent people they have murdered.
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Davy-755715Oct 23, 2011
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(snicker...)
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bondiboxOct 23, 2011
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I was wondering where the usual right wing drivel was this morning.
Osama was killed as a result of an operation planned painstakingly by President
Obama himself, down to even the last details, according to Navy Seals, of
ordering the teams to bring along a spare radar-proof helicopter, just in case
something goes wrong and it was a wise decision
Ah, here it is. I don't suppose you'd stop shoveling your @!$%# long enough to
cite a source for this. Obama gave the "go ahead" and that's all anyone has
ever claimed.
But really, Obama is at fault for not being "averse" to receiving credit. He
wasn't "averse" to Nobel prize accolades.
Although this withdrawl was negotiated and planned during President Bush's
time,
I won't ask you to cite this, because I KNOW it ain't even close to the truth.
Now, although your sentence structure starts to give way to incoherence, you
seem to be whining most loudly that Obama has ... kept another one of his 2008
campaign promises.
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WheelOct 23, 2011
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Yeah, a temple...
as long as it has bars on the windows, a dungeon to keep him in and his very
own waterboard. Otherwise, I only wish there really was a hell so Bush could
burn in it.
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ScienceGuy57Oct 24, 2011
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Texas George and the Temple of Dumb.
Compare the strategic role of the U.S. in the Iraqi invasion and subsequent
extended occupation, the cumulative cost in lives, dollars, etc. ... to that
which took place in Libya. Nuf said.
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Fed up with RepublicansOct 23, 2011
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Jimmy Carter got all the blame for the Iranian Hostage rescue from the
Republicans, no one claimed it was a failure of the military.
Obama gets the credit for having Osama Bin Laden killed, and the military gets
credit for carrying out the operation.
But if it had failed does anyone doubt that the Republicans and conservative
media would have crucified President Obama and his team.
I can hear the word incompetent ringing from every Republicans lips.
I am just glad he doesn't have to get congressional approval to carry out
foreign military missions and that the US Military is a non partisan
organization.
If this had been a domestic policy the Republicans in Congress would have
undermined and sabotaged the President just as they have on everything he has
tried to do for the American people.
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hugh bOct 23, 2011
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As a matter of fact, certainly not that it matters, Obama was very much
chagrined to receive the Nobel Prize. Not that he had a say in the matter. He
should grace and humility in his acceptance speech. And, unlike Bush, he
didn't come off sounding like an idiot, like Bush did every time he opened his
Saudi cocksucking mouth.
That politicians make political points with events that happen during their
tenure, is probably the second oldest act of any profession.
The above post shows the danger of stopping medications cold turkey. The
delusions become reality.
Volcanoes erupting are proof that hell is overflowing with conservatives. Wait
until Cheney, Rummy, and Dumbya get down there this planet will come apart at
the seams.
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JimEdeeOct 23, 2011
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Fed up with Republicans
Jimmy Carter got all the blame for the Iranian Hostage rescue from the
Republicans
Read a book about WILLIAM CASEY, used to head the C.I.A., you get a chance and
can find it. He had some really interesting facts about this.
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Dale SOct 23, 2011
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I saw what would be a suitable temple for Dumbass Jr. up in the mountains a
few days ago. It was about 3 feet square, 6 ft. tall, had a door with a
crescent moon cut into it. Trouble was, the stench from something inside was so
putrid, so vile I could get close enough to see the interior. That, and flies
were so thick even the outside was partially obscured. Still, it looked like a
suitable temple for the dumbest, most useless President in American
history.
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XanthianaOct 23, 2011
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Comparing Iraq with Libya is comparing apples to oranges:
1.) The people of Libya along with the UN asked the West to intervene. There
was no support for Iraq despite the US asking for the go ahead. Additionally,
the UN inspectors repeatedly claimed that Hussein was incapable to pose a
serious threat at the time, while Qaddafi of course was slaughtering his
people by the hundreds.
2.) Most of the weapons you were citing for Hussein came directly from the US
with the goal of him keeping Iran at bay, Gaddafi got his weapons from a bunch
of sources ...
3.) Hussein was put on trial and sentenced to death with the Iraqis having a
chance to address their grievances and Qaddafi was killed by his own
countrymen, not by a US drone.
4.) Osama Bin Laden does not fit into this comparison at all. He was never a
head of state and as such the US did not invade his foreign nation when
killing him. While I wish they would have arrested him and tried him in the
Hague his killing was different than the other two.
So what it boils down to: Bush started a war by lying to the UN, Obama decided
to intervene after having been asked by multiple factions in the fight. Bush
promised to kill Bin Laden, failed as in many other things, and Obama carried
out that promise made to the American people. So come again with that temple
idea?!?
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Dale SOct 23, 2011
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So come again with that temple idea?!?
I think he forgot the "High Satire" tag. It would have been satire that would
have flown over Mel Brooks's head by 40,000 ft., but hey, comedy isn't always
pretty.
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NaughtiaOct 23, 2011
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Read a book about WILLIAM CASEY, used to head the C.I.A., you get a chance and
can find it. He had some really interesting facts about this.
You mean RONALD REAGANS CAMPAIGN MANAGER? besides for the CIA he was the guy
who ran AGAINST carter.. and you want us to read his book for the "facts" of
the iranian hostage situation? really? Thats an interesting suggestion, but I
could get similar "facts" from the world nut daily.
Hey if you want I can find a book written by a carter lackey and tell you to
look up the facts, but best and non biased, would be to tell you to look at
the wiki page
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JimEdeeOct 24, 2011
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Naughtia
you want us to read his book for the "facts" of the Iranian hostage situation?
Oh, does that mean you believe all it took was for Reagan to get elected and
all of sudden, the fear of God struck Iran, and said "Please Mr. Reagan, take
your people, we didn't mean it". MMM
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NaughtiaOct 23, 2011
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Crap I wanted to do the "mission accomplished thing"
teh right wing media are all over the dial screaming to give bush credit..
for everything.. the Arab spring, the killing of osama.. it was all bush
at the same time their clones are all over posting this garbage saying the
president of the US who ordered the mission shouldn't get any credit what so
ever... and he didn't even make a ship called the Lincoln, sail out to sea so
he could fly out to the ship in a flight suit he had never worn before just so
he could stand in front of a mission accomplished banner.
and yall want to claim Obama is hyping this up for votes? @!$%#ING REALLY?
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DocPhilOct 24, 2011
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this may be the funniest article of the month...... definitely one of the top
five of the year...... Bush took us into the the worst war in our
history....... turned the USA into an aggressor nation for the first
time...... declared mission accomplished and then allowed almost 4000 more
Americans to die while we killed tens of thousands of Iraqis....... a
temple?...... how about a prison?....... if there was ever an action that the
USA took that was criminal, this was it.
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sbstarliteOct 24, 2011
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I certainly agree! It should be in the shape of a large hand with two fingers
on each side pulled down and the middle extended. A perfect monument for a
perfect @!$%#.
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MikeBravoOct 24, 2011
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We should build a temple for former President Bush
Did I miss the sarcasm tag? Perhaps we should build an alter to Bush and
sacrifice GOP congressmen on it while searching for their harts with a rusty
knife.
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Care for a trip to hell, anyone?
By David Lang
Thu Sep 1, 2011 7:04 AM
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The news - or shall we say announcement - that you can now go to hell will
undoubtedly surprise and make people sit up and listen. I did. I mean this is
fantastic, it's incredible; I thought hell is a place exists only in the world
of the dead. It's unthinkable to think that someone would want to do a thing
like visiting hell - even if it's possible (though I doubt it).
A person must be mad to want to go to a place that exists only to inflict
pain, punish and torture. What if he gets caught and thrown into a giant pan
full of boiling oil? What if he is not allowed to ever leave?C
Many people will definitely ponder over this before embarking on such a
journey.
They definitely want to know how they will be transported to the Hades. As
only one hundred will be accepted to join in the tour, they want to know the
reason. Why limit the number to 100? Why not 150? If they are to travel to the
shoel only in their souls i.e., what about the physical bodies they leave
behind? Are they alive and breathing? Do they function like a normal human
beings - like having to urinate or defecate? Or all form of human traits and
functions stop (suspended) until his or her soul returns to the body?
It will be out of this world if this tour to hell organizers can assure the
would be tourists that it will be safe and they can return, just like the
normal worldly tour to, say, China!
I myself was originally hooked on the idea also; it would be great if I could
meet with my father i.e. if he had done anything. But after consulting a few
friends, I called the organizer to count me in next time. The spokeswoman
agreed to leave my name on the list for the next trip, if any.
I understand this is not the first trip of its kind in the world (it can't
qualify for a Guinness World Record); there have been others conducted from
Taiwan, and even in Penang, Malaysia.But until now these tour participants had
been confined to within the four walls of temples; this is the first time the
'touring' session will be conducted in the open.
According to master Kek, the man leading the tour, you will be asked to close
your eyes and follow his instruction. He also warned some people may not
successfully be transported to to hell because he doesn't have what it takes
to make the trip, such as lack of belief, etc.
For me, the fact that the tour was billed as a "Tour To Hell" but without the
words "And Back" could unnerve some people.
What do you think?
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What I think? I think it would be one helluva tour. But I don't see why
would people want to go to a place like that; a place of misery, where extreme
forms of pain and torture are inflicted, or believed to be inflicted, to make
life there ...well...hell! While there's no denying the intriguing side of it,
such as the spookiness emanating from it which some may find to their liking,
I am deterred - or shall we say spooked - by the absence of guarantee given by
the organizers ...that one can return safely.
That I cannot compromise.
And I don't think anyone would either.
The eeriness many can't avoid
feeling when they look at the billing for the tour is unmistakable: 'Tour To
Hell Anyone?' Notice the glaring absence of assurance (in conjunction) such as
: 'Dont Worry It's Safe; No One Will Be Left Behind; You Can Go To Hell And
Return!'
Here's a thing. Not only I will give it a miss but also think
this type of tour will not be a sold out one ... for obvious reason.
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Haley Reinhart foundered due to too many negative comments...
By David Lang
Mon May 23, 2011 9:56 AM
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As American Idol Competition inches to the finale, one notable absentee will
be missed.
Haley Reinhart thought she as much as had every thing looking promising for
herself for that coveted crown; she made the last-three round, and then her
luck petered out. She didn't make it.
Amazingly she felt right at home when she performed on stage, as if she
belonged there, and she vowed, win or lose, that's where she wanted to be. She
wanted to be a star, whatever it takes.
There was one snag. The other two finalists were after exactly the same thing
and they were good.
Although she's doing every thing she possibly could to stay in the
competition, which was getting tighter and tighter as they're heading to the
finale, Haley hoped her broad and captivating smiles would see her through to
the finale. They didn’t. And every time Jennifer Lopez or Randy Jackson, or
both, took her to task over poor song choices (not her vocals, thank God), her
heart sank. She was concerned about the danger of too many criticisms from the
judges. While at the tail end of the competition, it was the nation-wide
voting which determined who continued to have a shot at the title, she could
not dismiss the judges' comments (criticisms) as having no effect on her
overall chance. They did, unfortunately. She had landed herself in the bottom
three more than once and she could not rule out it was not due to the two
judges' remarks.
Even Jennifer Lopez and Randy Jackson suddenly realized they might have gone
too far in their criticisms and, to their credit, tried to minimize, if not
undo, the damage to poor Haley, but it was too late.
The nation-wide voters, while they thought the world of Haley Reinhart’s
singing prowess, still had two equally good singers to choose from and that’s
all they needed. They didn’t relish cutting short Haley’s amazing journey
towards the American Idol’s (season 10) crown, but they’d a job to do, and was
looking forward to finishing it, with or without Haley. There were only two
places in the finale. Somebody out of the three would have to go home and,
based on the judges’ (Lopez and Jackson) frequent, unfavorable remarks, the
nation-wide voters' task was made somewhat easier - they decided it should be
Haley.
Poor Haley, she gave her all but still fell short. Like James Durbin who
assigned blames for his defeat, on the ubiquitous, over-board praises of his
every performance by Jennifer Lopez and Randy Jackson, which might have put
off some people, Haley was booted out apparently because of the opposite
reason.
To Haley, I want to offer this advice: "Keep doing what you do best. You have
proven you're as good as the other two finalists. You made to the last three,
remember? That's no mean feat. You deserved to win, but, unfortunately, so did
Scotty McCreery and Lauren Alaina. You’re a star; your gorgeous looks, the
best smile ever, and good stage presence will get you far in the music
industry. Don't give up.
As far as I am concerned, your American Idol contest participation was just a
start…start, I hope, to great things to come – such as lucrative contracts and
slew of albums to your name, and who knows... may be the #1 spot on the
chart!"
"Good luck!
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We loved Haley. Would buy any music she puts out. The final 2 country idols
were ok but I felt if it hadn't been for Lauren, Haley would have been in the
final 2 so we voted for Scotty to vindicate our feelings toward Lauren for
Haley's elimination.
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SyriaInTurmoilAug 20, 2013
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I can live with scotty as champion and Lauren number two. I have nothing
personal against Lauren although if given the power to choose, I will choose
Haley.
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Egypt In Turmoil
By David Lang
Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:48 AM
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Type Your Article Here ...President Obama is at it again -- purportedly trying
to repair the mangled image of the United States of America -- by wading into
Egypt's problem plainly copied from Tunisia's uprising which led to the
toppling of president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali who recently fled the
country.
The problem of lack of freedom, injustice, lack of reforms, to name a few,
that the Egyptian demonstrators used to justfy their own uprising in making
are real and present, but to openly model it, so soon, after the Tunisian coup
d'etat, seems to reflect badly on their timing if not themselves. Questions
may be raised who is behind the protest.If there is none, which is unlikely,
there are plenty of people waiting to take advantage of the turmoil. But for
president Obama to want to be seen to be siding with the anti-government
protesters seems odd, if not unwise. Why can't he steer clear of getting
involved -- and getting bogged down again? --in other people's problem for
once? If he is doing it because Egypt is an important ally which is essential
fordefending Israel, he's adopting a wrong approach! And secretary of state
Hillary Clinton deserves most of the credit if president Hosni Mubarak could
not prevail and the country descends into untenable scenario that happened in
Tunisia.
President Obama or his press secretary, Roberts Gibbs,or who ever are
authoriezd to make statements -- and that includes Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton and vice-president Joe Biden -- should know better and stop
encouraging and galvanizing the Egyptian protesters to try to emulate the
Tunisians.
President Mubarak, they shoud not forget, despite his faults, is one of our
few allies in the middle east. The consequences of the removal of him as
Egyptian president are many and frightening so president Obama better not
think of it.
Also,if he really cares about the security of Israel, or about the plight of
the Egyptian people, he should not hurt the feeling of Mubarak. Who knows what
Mubarak is capable of if he is pissed off. Don't forget in life no friend, or
enemy, is permanent. He should study the many examples around the world and
learn from them. Take president Hugo Chavez of Venezuela as an example.
From what I observed, among many American allies, especially in the Middle
East, there are few as loyal as the Egyptian president, beside Israel prime
minister. So Obama should be careful and lead by example to his entire
administration.
What if, in an unlikely scenario, Mubarak is toppled? You can speculate on the
scenario of Mubarak fleeing into exile and a new, and untested, leader takes
over. What then? What will happen to Israel's security if a Muslim hard-liner
replaces Mubarak and joins Syria as an ally of Iran? Oh, don't argue that we
could threaten to reduce our annual aid of 1.3 billion. Is that how we retain
loyalty of our friends - we pay them? If Obama thinks he can get his way with
Mubarak by using threats to review aids, he is wrong, very wrong. Who or what
is to stop Mubarak from getting similar aid or even more from someone else.
Someone like president Mamoud Ahmadinejad of Iran. I can easily think of many
such people in the world, especially in West Asia. Who knows, right now emails
may be flooding Mubara's inbox to the brim with offer of aids!
Never underestimate a leader of a counrty of 70 million people; despite this
setback, or other setbacks that may come later, president Hosni Mubarak may
continue to rule Egypt long after Obama ends his two terms as president of the
United States, assuming he could win a second term, of course. Again, just
look at how president Hugo Chavez is doing! It's wrong for the US to look at a
scenario without Mubarak just because he was caught by surprise by the biggest
ever opposition to his rule of Egypt. That, in a nutshell, how America usually
regards its friends -- expendable.No wonder so-called friends of the United
States, who receive billions of dollars of aid, think nothing of throwing the
uncle Sam under the bus! When the Pakistani army lost a few men purportedly
due to American air strikes, Pakistan couldn't be bothered with the billion-
dollar aid and closed its border at the most important supply lines completely
stranding hundreds of lorries, exposing them to the Taliban's rockets! Despite
the Americans apologizing for the mistake and loss of life, the Pakistan
government took their sweet time to reopen the border, although they're aware
they're jeopardizing the supposedly common war efforts! Fine example of loyal
friends, grateful recipient of aid, or war partners!
It will not be wrong to not defend one's friend, though we should, but is
definitely wrong to foment, even indirectly, the handful of protesters to rise
up against a legally elected president. Moreover, he's our friend. Right now
he needs our support -- not lecture or admonishing. For the record, Joe Biden
did show his grasp of the situation when he said president Hosni Mubarak is
not a dictator and should not step down.
Now, it's not too late for President Obama to send someone to tell Mubarak we
standby him, though. Just hurry. And Obama himself must make clear to the
world, if not the Egyptian protesters directly, that his administration will
not agree with the removal of Mubarak by illegal means (uprising). And at the
same time say that only the Egyptian people as a whole have the right to elect
or diselect their president -- through the ballot box.
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Behind the scenes, US tries to calm Iraq published on Mon Dec 26, 2011
m-612920, with 25. you really never get it, do you? It's the way of the United
States of America to go invading other countries for one reason or another.
Whether to avenge for the bombing of the World Trade Center, or help the
French to extricate itself from the hopeless fight in Vietnam, or to r
Israel says Iran closer to atom bomb than thought published on Mon Nov 14,
2011
care4mycountry,mychildren,myparents You sound like an Iranian, Iranian
supporter or an Israeli hater as your comment pretty sums that up. Your
display name says you're 4 your country, your children,your parents, good; but to
me you're 4yourself - your ego. You went to great length to make Israel look l
Saudi royal offers bounty to catch Israeli soldier published on Mon Oct 31,
2011
Experienced-1110305 I agree someone has his head buried in the sand. Susan
Rice doing an excellent job as our representative in the UN? Yeah, I agree she
worked her butt off convincing..no..arm-twisting members of the UN security
council into approving the no-fly zone resolution so that her boss Pr
Iowa Poll: Cain, Romney top field ahead of caucuses published on Sun Oct 30,
2011
For the Gop hopefuls Iowa is the make or break state; whether they are good
enough for a ticket to have a shot at the whitehouse is decided here. It could
be Mchele Bachmann or Mitt Romney, as far as I am concerned. They have what it
takes. Don't count either your losses or chickens yet though. But
Bachmann: 2012 bid not 'personal' against Obama published on Mon Jun 27, 2011
Will D For Barrack Hussein Obama, alright: President Barack Obama. Are you
satisfied now? But I respect your opinion. But I am sorry I cannot click on
the Facebook Like Button for this man after he went for the hide of a man who
meant no harm to him or the US. Worse, he dithered purposely at the beg
'Why are you waiting?': Residents plead for Libyan fighters to attack their
town published on Thu Sep 15, 2011
They are good at another thing: lying (making up stories about Qaddafi's sons
surrendering or being captured; about capturing this town that town and
Qaddafi's soldiers killing civilians, etc. etc.).
Of coure, everything about protecting civilians used by Obama and his European
cliques was fake. I mean since they are riding high they can get away with
anything - even murders. All they have to do is get Susan Rice and Hillary
Clinton to do some arm-twisting or quid-pro-quo and it's done. Sky is the
limit!
Gadhafi 'on the run,' US defense chief reports published on Tue Sep 06, 2011
Wolften Try this link This link. This link. And this link.
Do you wish to know more?
Mike-1817409 Mike, I am sorry I have to disagree. On the contrary, you lack
fact for your argument. If any anybody should read up first before posting on
this forum, it is you. As everyone knows, it's President Obama who launched
the so-called Arab Spring revolution. It's his idea to make the Cairo
REMNANT47, Yes to your first question but I am not sure about the second. Some
say the AlQaeda was actually an American (C.I.A) creation. Perhaps they failed
to obey and their masters wanted them exterminated. To what extent this is
true I don't know. What I know is, judging by Obama's actions so far
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